Anything related to matter manipulation is difficult for Saiyans to deal with. There are a lot of superheroes in the Marvel Universe who would like to test their abilities against Gohan but does anyone have the know-how to overpower him not just by strength, but also by the effectiveness of their superpowers? Despite appearing to be in his normal state, Gohan, in actuality, is using the power of Super Saiyan 2 without the burden the latter transformation places on his body. In GT, base Goku was able to wreck SSJ Gohan, while base GT Gohan was confirmed to be at least equal to DBZ Ultimate Gohan. Gohan had his power unlock twice. He's proven to be stronger than the Super Saiyan Blue form. The angrier Hulk gets, the stronger he becomes. Gohan achieved this state during his training with his father in the Hyperbolic Time Chamber. Ultimate Gohan will be no exception and imagine what will happen if Rogue is able to take away the Saiyan's energy in his most powerful form. Ultimate Gohan is stronger than Super Saiyan 3 Goku from Dragon Ball Super. Ultimate Gohan was actually able to get in some blows on Super Saiyan blue Goku as well as taking in blocked shots.. It is like comparing the Super Saiyan phase 1 with the Super Saiyan phase 2. Super Saiyan Rose Goku Black was already a fair amount stronger than a Super Saiyan Blue and that was before he powered up again and took an angry Goku out immediately. X may be stronger than foes who can generate black holes, but Gohan could overpower Super Saiyan Blue Goku, who is 50 times stronger than the universe-ending Super Saiyan God Goku. In Dragon Ball Z, fans were introduced to Gohan’s ‘Ultimate’ form as the Kai unlocked the character’s full potential.The state is said to have power greater than Super Saiyan 3 Goku. In SSJ your power level is 50. However, even at such an early age, he possessed tremendous hidden strength in the form of a "hidden potential" that manifested in moments of extreme emotion, namely anytime the kid lost himself in anger such as during Goku's and Piccolo's fight against Raditz. Nevertheless, it would be interesting to see Captain Marvel fight a Saiyan. Cisz Well-Known Member . Of course not, Gohan is weaker than base form Frieza bro. In ultimate your power level is the full extent of your power. It is unknown whether Dragon Ball GT is canon. Since FPSSJ Gohan was stronger than FPSSJ Goku, Mystic Gohan is FPSSJ of whatever his highest level of SSJ would be, and Mystic is way more powerful than anyone in SSJ2 and must therefore be SSJ3-level, the logical conclusion is the Gohan was stronger. With superpowers aplenty, Ghost Rider is someone not to be trifled with. After this he asks Piccolo to train him, because he's just fucked up. 26 Stronger: Jiren We all can remember when Gohan way giving a really nice beating to Majin Buu in his very first glimpse … 16 at the hands of the bio-engineered monstrosity, Cell. Easily visibly stronger than Goku up until the moment he decided to serve his face on a platter like a baseball in an underhanded pitch getting tossed by a toddler 2 feet away from Mike Trout steel bat in hand swinging full force with no regard for human life because if he holds back even an ounce everyone he knows and loves seeks to no longer exist. Gohan is a shy and studious intellectual child. Would he be stronger than Goku's? To get things in perspective, we need to start at the beginning, and progress chronologically and stick to a single source of information. If Final Form Frieza was able to take out Ultimate Gohan easily, that implies that Goku's base form is now stronger than Ultimate Gohan, Super Buu, and even Buu Saga Super Saiyan 3, … His strength is comparable to the likes of Hulk and Sentry, making him way out of the league for Ultimate Gohan. The fact that he achieved that much power within 2 days, whereas originally he was barely getting by with regular Super Saiyan, speaks volumes for how capable Gohan really is. Dragon Ball Super relegates Gohan to little more than a glorified cameo, with the Saiyan only regaining his Ultimate form during the final arc in the anime. Dragon Ball Super relegates Gohan to little more than a glorified cameo, with the Saiyan only regaining his Ultimate form during the final arc in the anime. H… The only problem is Frieza's lack of stamina. No matter who she comes up against, she will always have the means to be more powerful than her opponent. Gohan with this power up was even stronger than Super Saiyan 3 Goku and Super Saiyan 3 Gotenks since he was able to dominate Super Buu with ease without transforming. Gohan could of won with more battle tactics. Jun 14, 2017 #3 SSB Gohan would be weaker than SSB Goku but stronger than … RELATED: 10 Marvel Supervillains Stronger Than Super Saiyan Blue Vegeta. Super Saiyan Blue will probably provide a 250% boost, though, meaning Gohan is falling behind quickly, but Dragon Ball Super doesn't give him any new transformations. He said that Gohan is indeed the "strongest non-fused dragonball character." He is the son of series protagonist Son Goku. Golden Frieza would've given Goku Black a lot of trouble. Privacy PolicyCookie SettingsDo Not Sell My InformationReport Ad. So, being a bit strict the Super Saiyan phase 4 and the Super Saiyan Blue cannot be compared. In SSJ2 your power is 100. Gohan and Piccolo team up and train with Goku and Tenshinhan, they clash and Goku is very impressed. Let … Skaar is the son of Hulk and like his father, his strength is intimidating, to say the least. Covering the hottest movie and TV topics that fans want. At his best, Ultimate Gohan might not be able to hurt Hercules and even the Olympian God's speed is better than the Saiyan's. 1 Usage 2 Attributes 3 Trivia 4 References The Saiyan Beyond God state isn't necessarily a transformation. This form helped in beating Majin Buu when there was no help to be found even Goten … The energy she can generate through her hands has been enough to handle Thanos, so why wouldn't it be enough to manage Ultimate Gohan, who is noticeably weaker than the Mad Titan. 11.11% (13 votes) 13. Is there a limit to how many times Android 16 dunk an opponent in the air during a combo? Goku as SSJ was still heavily struggling with him. Mystic Gohan can not only hold his own against Super Saiyan Blue, at that point it's stronger than it. Depicted as being equal in power to Super Saiyan Blue in the anime, the manga makes the form even stronger, with Gohan in his Ultimate form able to defeat the powerful Kefla in her Legendary Super Saiyan form, a feat narrowly accomplished in the anime by Goku, who was barely able to knock the fused warrior out of the ring in his Ultra Instinct state. By Nicholas Raymond Mar 14, 2020 Gohan's fight with Kefla in the manga version of Dragon Ball Super reveals that the son of Goku is much stronger than originally thought. @Scotty_Rogers, there you go. Of course not, Gohan is weaker than base form Frieza bro. Dragon Ball's Ultimate Gohan is tough, but these Marvel superheroes are stronger. And keeping pace with … Gohan's record in Super: 1) got wrecked by first form Frieza in RoF RELATED: 10 DC Supervillains Stronger Than The Legendary Super Saiyan Broly. This poll is now closed. After that, Gohan went full power, when this happened Goku and Gohan charged at one another. Saiyan Beyond God (神(かみ)を超(こ)えたサイヤ人(じん), Kami wo koeta Saiya-jin) is a state used by those who have mastered the power of the Super Saiyan God—enabling them to apply its power to other states. RELATED: 10 Marvel Supervillains Stronger Than Super Saiyan Blue Vegeta Gohan is one of Dragon Ball's strongest Saiyans and his most intimidating form is Ultimate Gohan, where he doesn't even go Super Saiyan to extract the full potential of his energy. I'm new to the game, so, Normal Gogeta (the blonde one, Super Saiyan). Gohan was able to learn the transformation and perform it on command, making him the youngest Saiyan to achieve the legendary form at the time. Maybe Goku SSJ3, maybe. During the Cell Games, young Son Gohan witnessed the death of a soft-spoken, gentle android known as No. Goku made the game dull for you? Captain Marvel is half Kree and half-human, thanks to the changes made to her anatomy when she absorbed bundles of energy. Goku and Vegeta weren't on Earth and he wasn't strong enough to protect his … Overview. It's somewhat similar to Saiyan anatomy, isn't it? Super Saiyan: The famous, legendary transformation of a Saiyan that allows them to greatly surpass their limits and reach the fabled state that is Super Saiyan. rowanowa-zoro 3 years ago #1. He even slightly scratched Goku when he went full-on Kaioken Blue. In the video I explain why GOHAN … Gohan had the potential to surpass his father, seeing how he was able to go Super Saiyan 2 before Goku could, but he let his mother’s influence get the best of him. Skaar is nigh-invulnerable, has an incredible regenerative factor, and can transform into a human. DBS Ultimate Gohan is only slightly stronger than DBZ Ultimate Gohan. She has the ability to absorb the superpowers and memories of anyone she touches. Gohan achieved the Mystic form which is even stronger than Goku’s Super Saiyan 3 yeah you heard it right the Mystic Gohan is way more powerful than the Super Saiyan 3 Goku. You're browsing the GameFAQs Message Boards as a guest. But that's not the only superpower he has with him. Then, Gohan requests that just he and Goku spar, he wants to prove himself to his dad so it's Ultimate Gohan who eventually gets Goku to go all out at Super Saiyan Blue and then Kaioken. User Info: rowanowa-zoro. Both multiverses are flooded with ultra-powered beings capable of destroying planets and galaxies on their own, so it isn't unimaginable to compare their respective characters. It is believed that Ghost Rider can do anything his host imagines him to do and how can a mere mortal like Gohan compete with anything like that. via: dragonball.wikia.com. Ever since this fight, Gohan has given up on fighting and has continually gotten weaker to the point that he can't use his Super Saiyan transformations without straining himself. Although originally introduced as a mild-mannered and easily scared child, Gohan harbors an immense, limitless potential that surpasses that of his father. RELATED: The Seven (The Boys) VS Dragon Ball Warriors: Who Would Win? Gohan spared with Goku shortly before the Tournament Of Power, and the two warriors were pretty much even until Goku doubled his Super Saiyan Blue transformation with the Kaioken technique. He barely managed to come out on top. The first time was with the Elder Namekian, also known as Guru on Planet Namek, and the second time was with the Elder Supreme Kai back in Dragon Ball Z. ... Also if there is gonna be a Super saiyan blue 2. Boomstick: Ultimate Gohan is much stronger than his Super Saiyan 2 transformation, enabling him to push past his normal limits. So whereas Goku and Vegeta are walking the path of superior Super Saiyan forms, Gohan has realised that ultimate is his optimal state and he will continue to walk that path. In the following blog, we would learn how Gohan transformed into Ultimate Gohan or should I say Mystic Gohan. Gohan, being only half-Saiyan, is unusual in his values and personality. I use to think Ultimate Gohan was just his SSJ3 power without the stamina drawback. He has the power to erase an entire universe in an instant. During Gohan's ascension to this form from his Super Saiyan 4 and Super Saiyan 5 state, it can be asumed that this form could potentially be just as powerful or even stronger than the Super Saiyan Blue 5 form. GOHAN My may be able to stack the super Saiyan on top of his Ultimate form and that will take GOHAN to another level and possibly surpass Goku. RELATED: 10 DC Supervillains Stronger Than The Legendary Super Saiyan Broly. Its tough to scale Rage Trunks. This is the Gohan that fought against the Future Androids from Android Saga Z, which came at a hefty price -- the loss of his arm and ultimately, his death.. Like most adult Gohan variants, he has an indomitable fighting spirit and remains a resilient Fighter from the start until the bitter end. Marvel and Dragon Ball have something in common. By the time the Universe Survival Saga rolls around, Ultimate Gohan cannot hold a candle to Super Saiyan Blue Vegeta. This would mean that Gohan's Mystic form, as the author himself stated, is meant to be the most powerful "nonfused" character on the protagonist side of the characters in the Dragonball Z series. Super Saiyan God Goku Ultimate GohanRules:No prep time, no prior knowledgeStandard gear and equipmentWin by Death, KO or TKOComposites for both Goku 88.89% (104 votes) 104. Wiz: Gohan was simply far too much for X to handle. Lets say your normal form power level is 1. In his rage state, he managed to pressure Frieza's second form. Firstborn of Son Goku and Chi-Chi. Ultimate Gohan is a transformation achieved by Son Gohan after Elder Kaiōshin unlocked his potential. Hulk can be a daunting figure to come up against, not only because of his size but also because of his limitless strength as confirmed by the Beyonder himself. Gohan is one of Dragon Ball's strongest Saiyans and his most intimidating form is Ultimate Gohan, where he doesn't even go Super Saiyan to extract the full potential of his energy. I think we could see a new God Ki Ultimate Form debut in the tournament. No. She has the ability to play with her opponent's mind and completely change the reality in front of them by using Chaos Magic. Gohan spared with Goku shortly before the Tournament Of Power, and the two warriors were pretty much even until Goku doubled his Super Saiyan Blue transformation with the Kaioken technique. NEXT: Dragon Ball: 10 Best Vegeta Transformations, Ranked From Lamest To Coolest. Dragon Ball GT tried to popularize Super Saiyan 4 as the ultimate form of Saiyan, but Dragon Ball Super has proven that’s far from the case. It's lookin like you are the minority in this discussion. #2 (message deleted) User Info: UraRenge2005. This video is a review of Dragon Ball Super Episode 90. Ultimate Gohan can't go super saiyan and there would be no point. UraRenge2005 1 year ago … No matter who she comes up against, she will always have the means to be more powerful than her opponent. Although he began as very shy and easily frightened boy, after spending a year training with Piccolo, he grew strong and brave, gradually tapping into more and more o… Gohan is below Super Saiyan Blue tier. 3 Blue Marvel Though Gohan had gotten much weaker due to not training after the Cell Games, he became stronger than he ever has after his potential was unlocked from Old Kaiō-shin. He's proven to be stronger than the Super Saiyan Blue form. Recently, Dragon Ball Super put out its latest chapter, and the update focused heavily on Gohan to start. If Gohan was truly equal to Goku, he would have fared a lot better against Goku. But even so, Gohan still has plenty of room to grow as a fighter. Who wins that fight? unless he went ssj3! As an adult, he achieves his dream career of becoming a great scholar. The Seven (The Boys) VS Dragon Ball Warriors: Who Would Win? And that was in Baby saga, where Majuub was stronger than SSJ3 Goku. 2 Monna Malicious Miraculous Malevolent Maelstrom. Boomstick: And keep in mind, Old Kai stated that there would be nothing left in the universe. Sentry is not only good enough to beat anyone using his brute strength, but his superpowers are such that, sometimes, he doesn't even have to entertain his opponents physically. Son Gohan is the eldest son of Son Goku and Chi-Chi, and one of the primary heroes of the second half of Dragon Ball. Zeno is the most powerful being in the Dragon Ball franchise. Goku Black was a powerful force. Son Gohan is the one of the deuteragonists of the of the famous anime/manga series, Dragon Ball. base gotenks pre is stronger than SSJ1 teen gohan, gotenks survived against fat buu and escape while SSJ1 gohan couldn't survive or escape. I'd like him to get a powerup, but as of right now he's just not. So has U.I. How much stronger is Super Saiyan Blue than SS3? Ultimate Gohan will be no exception and imagine what will happen if Rogue is able to take away the Saiyan's energy in his most powerful form. Gohan could of won with more battle tactics. He lost against the yardrat when Frieza murdered him. Idk. Ultimate Gohan was weaker than a Super Saiyan Blue but at that point Goku was much stronger than when he first fought Goku Black. No. This makes Gohan's Mystic form stronger than the Super Saiyan 3 form of Goku. Asking for a "friend" - Results (117 votes). As a child, he lacks the Saiyan fighting spirit. Like Gohan, Captain Marvel can also transform when she has absorbed enough energy. I'm going to aim for that with a different method than you." Asking for a "friend" - Results (117 votes) Yes. Ultimate Gohan might be able to bamboozle Hulk with his speed and reflexes but when it comes to pure power, there's nothing the Saiyan can do to match Marvel's beast. Blue Marvel's source of power is anti-matter and he gained them after a scientific experiment went horribly wrong. Super Saiyan Blue is a transformation that comes with significant drawbacks. Mystic Gohan is about the same level of Kefla, which is the fusion of Kale and Caulifla, being Kale able to defeat Aniraza and to fight Goku SSB and Golden Freezer at the same time. He is not only well-rehearsed in different fighting techniques, but he is also a master swordsman and marksman. He gets a large increase in power. Not at all. Anyone who says Gohan is ssb level is not fit to properly discuss these things. Simply put, Ultimate Gohan is the character's most powerful form, dramatically stronger than other established Saiyan transformations including Super Saiyan 3 and Super Saiyan God. Gohan in his Grand Ultimate form. Hercules is an Olympian God, meaning he possesses the kind of strength that mortals cannot even comprehend. Gohan achieved this form, after master the full extension of his Ultimate form. In the anime, he fought against Super Saiyan Blue Goku,and promptly got one shotted when Goku used the Kaioken. By the time the Universe Survival Saga rolls around, Ultimate Gohan cannot hold a candle to Super Saiyan Blue Vegeta. A one-stop shop for all things video games. 14 Stronger: King Zeno. He can get stronger whenever he is being dominated or someone he cares about is being hurt. Wiz: But if he doesn't train enough, he risks losing his Ultimate form. During the training, Gohan is taught by Goku on how to channel his anger and attain the Super Saiyan transformation without the need to train excessively as Vegeta had or experience an emotional trigger as Goku himself did. Molecular manipulation, time travel, psionic abilities, and immortality; he has it all. 26 Stronger: Jiren He became a celestial being as a result, capable of doing some supernatural things, ranging from anti-matter manipulation to energy manipulation of extraordinary proportions. But even then it would be difficult, especially because Skaar's strength is directly proportional to his anger. However, it wasn't a convincing fight for the villain. Gohan could go super saiyan and super saiyan 2, but they would be weaker than his Ultimate Form. Boomstick: But even without it, Gohan is incredibly powerful. His two main teammates should be apparent immediately; Zenkai 7 SP Kid Goku YEL and SP Super Kaioken Goku GRN are ideal partners for Gohan, who loves the Support of the former and the rapid-fire Blast-oriented playstyle of the latter. All the latest gaming news, game reviews and trailers. Back in the Buu saga, Base Vegito was superior to SSJ3 Goku and Ultimate Gohan. Remember that the SSJ Blue is more powerful than the Super Saiyan God. Is Super Saiyan God Blue weaker than Super Saiyan 4? Super Saiyan Rose Goku Black was already a fair amount stronger than a Super Saiyan Blue and that was before he powered up again and took an angry Goku out immediately. In Dragon Ball Z, fans were introduced to Gohan’s ‘Ultimate’ form as the Kai unlocked the character’s full potential.The state is said to have power greater than Super Saiyan 3 Goku. We also know for a fact that the Super Saiyan Blue transformation is a lot stronger than the Super Saiyan God transformation based on Goku's initial fight with Jiren and Whis's comments during his fight with Dyspo. Every indication we are given is that each level of super saiyan increases at the same percentage for each character. Stronger than Goku with Kaiokenx10? If there's anyone who can, it is Goku. The Saiyan was seen challenging Super Saiyan Kefla to … We don't need Blue Gohan tho . This is said to be the full powered version of the form, which is revealed to even be stronger than Super Saiyan Blue at 10% of its power. He began as an easily frightened four year old. I say Gohan may get a new form, super saiyan blue gohan to be exact or a new form which combines his mystic gohan / ultimate gohan form with super saiyan blue… He lost against the yardrat when Frieza murdered him. Gohan's plan is to get stronger by focusing on his Ultimate form, which means that he's unlikely to ever achieve - or even attempt to achieve - the Super Saiyan God or Super Saiyan Blue transformations. These unique values and personality separate him from pure Saiyans; as powerful as he is, he does not like fighting much. Following Goku's death, he was trained by Piccoloin anticipation of the upcoming Saiyan invasion, and g… Even Vegeta is impressed. Gohan's plan is to get stronger by focusing on his Ultimate form, which means that he's unlikely to ever achieve - or even attempt to achieve - the Super Saiyan God or Super Saiyan Blue transformations. It's kinda like how (I know how we all hate dbgt lol but hear me out) kid goku usually goes from base form straight to SS4. I don't ever remember seeing him power up from a SS form into SS4 (expect from the japanese intro but that doesn't count lol). Scarlet Witch aka Wanda Maximoff might not be able to match Ultimate Gohan in terms of strength, but she can stun the Saiyan using her other magical superpowers. The Elder Kai's mystical ritual boosted Gohan's latent abilities to unseen levels, augmented by additional training, effectively making Gohan's previous transformations largely obsolete. There's a reason why Sentry is regarded as, arguably, the most powerful Marvel character ever. Ultimate Gohan will only be able to match Sentry in terms of muscle power but even then he'll struggle because of the Marvel superhero's other incredible superpowers. However, unlike his father, Gohan dislikes fighting and harming others, and his true power only shows through during moments of intense rage. © 2020 GAMESPOT, A RED VENTURES COMPANY. 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